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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ...and 'The Jerry' goes to....

I love the fact you are so critical - you know what you like, and damn it, you know what you don't. I don't disagree with those later Stephens. However, I can assume, based on being at the Box '86 breakout, Dark Star at Greek in '84, Ripple encore at shit (boring) shows in Landover, and then in Hampton in '89 (as well as the Jer comeback shows) that the electricty in the Garden must have been pretty awe inspiring when the crowd realized what was happening. Like the Box of Rain pretty much sucked at Hampton, but I didn't know because I couldn't hear a thing as it was one collective huge roar for the first minute or so.

S

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ...and 'The Jerry' goes to....

Yeah, the 74-82 period just didn't have the really significant moments that the latter yrs did...after Jerry had virtually DIED, I would NEVER take away from what the folks that experienced "I will survive!" had...that has to rank up there with THE most significant moments of ROCK (if that doesn't seem too snobbish)...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ...and 'The Jerry' goes to....

Hey BD...I was at that Hampton show, too, and you're right...if you go back and listen to the actual performance that was a pretty lame "Box"...and in fact, the Stephen at the garden in '83 (i was lucky enuff to be there too) would also not fall anywhere in anyone's top 10 (altho' it was significantly better played than the Box at Hampton)....but that's what's so amazing about the Deadhead devotion to the band, it's history, and the shows themselves...that the fan base could know and care that much about the gap between tunes played and to respond so emotionally to just the APPEARANCE of a certain song...is an amazing thing.

To me the Box at Hampton was remarkable for the surprise factor and for what happened as soon as it was over & the set ended...the streams of 'heads clogging the pay phone lines to tell all those "back home" what had just happened.

For sheer crowd unity of freakout/emotion factor, though, I never experienced anything like that Garden Stephen pullout in '83 (it also had the added bonus of the "In and out of the GARDEN he goes" line)....chills for sure.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ...and 'The Jerry' goes to....

grendel - I'm glad I wasn't in the know for the Greek, Friday the July 13th Full Moon Dark Star because the roar that went up when Phil hit those opening notes.... Perhaps my highest single moment at a show. Was standing on the top aisle between grass hill and upper edge of concrete seats (and had run into old, old friend right before encore in bathroom who gave me extra "boost" for the rest of the night). Damn, that was summer of 1984 and I still get chills.... (yea, I'm a pussy).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ...and 'The Jerry' goes to....

Sorry, had to add this: the first time I heard StSt at the Orpheum, believe it or not, for quite some number of notes, I had NO CLUE what song they were playing...

Should a fan of 68 admit to that?

Is it possible that a disciple of Aoxmoxoa would ever accept that someone (THEM--the DEAD) could do it in such a way as to cause confusion?

Sorry, babbling...

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jan 28, 2009 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ...and 'The Jerry' goes to....

I think you're right on, WT. As big a fan as I am of the Orpheum 7/18/76 show, the St. Stephen is just...too...damn...slow. And I dearly love Donna, but she keeps coming in early (maybe she thought it was too slow too), so that it sounds like:
"saintSAINT Stephen with a rose..."